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A letter to the community regarding BF2142 stats
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Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:27 am 
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Dear Battlefield 2142 Community,

We, the web sites signed below, have come to an agreement that based on excessive delays, unsatisfactory excuses, and a poor communication EA and its partners; Gamespy, a division of IGN, and Dice, a division of EA, are not planning, nor ever have planned, to release a method for the public to retrieve stats for Battlefield 2142.

While we have already pleaded and begged with EA/DICE/IGN for the release of stats data, they have shown little to no real interest or intent to work with us. At this point, we can do nothing but turn to you, the Battlefield community, to tell our story. We do this so you know that the lack of stats is by no means for a lack of want.

While we hope we have wildly misconstrued events, we believe that EA has never planned to provide stats, and all press releases and/or emails to the contrary were attempts to placate the community until they were able to release their own EA branded stat site.

Excessive Delays

The first confirmed email stating there would definitely be a stats feed was received on Oct 18, 2006. Before then, we have been asking for stats since the early beta stages of BF2142. Since coming out, there has been a press release claiming there would be a stats feed offered to the community and many emails claiming the same. However, outside of these hollow promises, there has been no concrete information offered or efforts to work with leading community websites.

When Battlefield 2 was released it took roughly 2 weeks for IGN to produce a working and viable stats feed. However, despite the fact that 2142 is built on proven technology (BF2) and regardless of the fact that EA has managed to produce a production quality website with stats, we are to this day being told that a stats feed for the community still “isn't ready.” Yet, we have seen successful efforts to grab the data feed like the game does. Some efforts have even gone as far as data scraping the stats directly from the official EA website. If these things can be reverse engineered so quickly, what has taken EA/DICE/IGN so long to create a feed directly from the source?

To prepare, we requested to at least be provided with examples of the data feeds we would be gaining access to so that we could setup our sites. Yet, time and time again EA, Dice, and IGN were unable to provide sample data files or simply wouldn't. Our guess? There isn't really a feed to get sample data files from.

Unsatisfactory Excuses

We've been told, on multiple occasions, that the delay is being caused because of “performance concerns” with the data feed. For a system already tried and tested true from Battlefield 2, where did these mystical performance issues come from? After over a year of operation, this process should be smooth as a whistle. Regardless, where are the performance concerns when it comes to sites like EA's own stat site, or 2142-stats.com which ran, unblocked, for several months. How serious could these so called “performance issues” really be?

Poor Communication

While we think that what we've requested to be fair and simple, perhaps we are incorrect. If that were the case, then the least we would expect is prompt, regular communications about the progress of the project from EA/DICE/IGN. However, we've been ignored for months on end, and when we do get communications from the other side, they are simply regurgitations of the same “please, just wait it's not ready yet” story which has been spoon fed to the community leaders for months.


We publish this letter with the intention of explaining how hard we have tried to bring 2142 stats to the community through 3rd party providers. We wanted you all to know that we haven't given up, and that if there is to be any chance of 2142 stats happening, we're going to need your help to push EA, DICE and IGN into recognizing that there is a desire for this to happen.

Thank you for your support,

- Greg Thomas, BF2Player.com
- Jeff Minard, BF2S.com
- Marco Kawon, BF2142Tracker.com / BF2Tracker.com
- Nick van Rossum, BF2142Stats.nl / bf2stats.net

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Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:57 am 
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Well this has capped it for me,with EA selling my screen space for the targeted advertising junk and now this i will not be buying 2142 ever. What a bunch of small minded morons.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:13 am 
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Yeah, its probalby because they even want to make more money. BF2142 is still a beta game, and has the same bug as BF2. They had about 1.5 year to fix the bugs b4 releasing 2142, but only more bugs came with newer patches. Iam getting really pissed at them, because of patch v1.06 which was total crap. As i said in another thread, i get at least every half an hour a crash to dekstop while i had none on v1.01. v1.06 was to fix the crash to desktops.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:18 am 
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For the ctd prob i haven't had one in bf2 for over a week now.... found a setting in tweakui that stops apps from stealing focus seems to be easing things. Though the 3/4 daily connection drops are tedious

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Bummer...


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Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:37 am 
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Feel free to post this message anywhere you want. So we can hopefully reach as much people with our 4 stats sites together ;).

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I dont think we ever will see legal public stats feeds.

Other lame things like the DICE knife challenge seem to get more attention from DICE.

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lol we can always go bak to illegal stats stealing. Like what bf2142tracker.com did b4 EA/Dice asked them to shut it off. :P


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Demo91 wrote:
lol we can always go bak to illegal stats stealing. Like what bf2142tracker.com did b4 EA/Dice asked them to shut it off. :P


Yeah thats what i got here, some people hacked their authentication codes which iam using:

http://www.bf2142stats.nl/player/82287194/

Its for about 60% finished, but will soon be complete.

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It keeps getting better :D

One thing I noticed: Pins - Ribbons - Badges - Medals

Order doesn't feel right. Pins and Badges can be achieved multiple times.
Ribbons and medals cannot. I would swap the badges and ribbons.

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Angel.C-sq wrote:
It keeps getting better :D

One thing I noticed: Pins - Ribbons - Badges - Medals

Order doesn't feel right. Pins and Badges can be achieved multiple times.
Ribbons and medals cannot. I would swap the badges and ribbons.


Technically, badges can only be achieved once as well. You can upgrade the badges, but they can only be earned once....that is until the EA awards server messes up and you start getting them again :lol:

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nsvr wrote:
Demo91 wrote:
lol we can always go bak to illegal stats stealing. Like what bf2142tracker.com did b4 EA/Dice asked them to shut it off. :P


Yeah thats what i got here, some people hacked their authentication codes which iam using:

http://www.bf2142stats.nl/player/82287194/

Its for about 60% finished, but will soon be complete.


Could just be me, but it looks like somethings wrong at the top of your 2142 stats. All I see is the code you used to create your arrays. I'm using Firefox btw

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Same with me, but I assumed that was work in progress.
(Or at least I hoped it was)

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Can you post the reply nsvr? I want to see if you're getting any progress :D

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Yes, it's an array dump of the variables i still need to add.

Don't worry about the order. This isnt gonna stay there. The things at top are those i finished as last.

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