I never said the squad system is the only problem that game has. that was one of the problems I didn't like the game. In the battlelog forum People kept saying but you haven't try out the Caspian map, or you haven't seen the retail version. Ok, to clear things up. is the Caspian map or final retail version going to have this things...?

1 commander
2 none-regenerating health on both humans and vehicles
3 sprint limit
4 overheating LMG's that you can only shoot from crouch or prone position
5 planes equiped with bombs
6 planes that don't move slower than blimps
7 helicopter mechanics much more advance like BF2
8 communication system and spotting system just like BF2
and many more

no its not going to have none of those things. it only takes one look at the beta to know that I am not getting those things. I don't need to play caspian, althought I did, to find out I am not getting what I want. Instead, what I am getting is a very good Call of Duty game, thats all.

listen people if it's your thing go ahead I'm not telling you to not buy it. But, this is not for me nor almost all my friend's. This is not the last battlefield game nor the best. So, I'm waiting for another game, I'll pass. If I change my mind I can always go get it. So why is every1 in the battlelog forum so upset at those people that are doing the same thing as me? Hell I bought BF2 a year later than it's release and it changed nothing for me. I payed less and had a better time cause I bought a game that was fully patched. Guess what, I still got my three star in the end just like those that got the game as soon as it was released. So, who cares?

Well if you think about it, COD isn't that bad of a game, so if i'm just getting a really good COD game, i am happy lol.

But i don't feel like this is a COD game at all, this feels like a BF game. Yeah, some bf2 features that are taken out forever or ATM sucks, but some are going to be there, like the Como Rose.

Some things do need to be changed, the planes could go a lil bit faster, the overheating LMG's would be cool, but how many ppl sit and just freaking hold down their LMG for 100-200 full rounds? i don't.

The regenerating health, i do like. it takes a while to kick in (15-20 seconds), and usually within that time, you can be killed, or kill the other person, so it doesn't really matter.
And the vehicles, again doesn't really matter, i mean 1 rocket take a tank lower then 75% which is where the limit is at (if i'm correct).

I don't disagree, but i also don't agree, with things

Again I'm not trying to convince any1 to not buy the game. But, I since the beginning gave this game a chance and there are to many things missing for me to like it being the beta or not. The transition from BF1942 to BF2 was very good cause I felt they didn't take away anything from the game they added more. the same with going from BF2 to BF2142. They just added without taking away from the battlefield series. Now, thats not the case with BF3. they are taking away everything we love from BF1942, BF2 & BF2142 and putting everything from the BC series. Again, not interested, pass.

if Im so wrong ask yourself this question. why BF2142, a game that it's based on the future and is not a sequel to BF2 feels more familiar to BF2 than this new BF3 which is suppose to be a BF2 sequel? BF3 it's even from the same modern warfare time than BF2 and it feels more alien to BF2 players. why is that? I know the answer. do you?

Finally sorted my BF3 joining server problem.
It was Avast me AV causing the problem.
What i found was that when i tried to load the game it failed, this then caused the BF3 process to hang which in turn meant that i could then not join any servers.
I had to terminate the process manually to get rid of it before attempting to join a server.
I worked through all the AV Shields and found that when i disabled the script shield it started to load into servers correctly.
I the added *.battlelog.battlefield.com as an exclusion this didnt work so i tried adding *.origin.* this is what finally cured it for me.

to bad your wrong again. Let me clear some of the bs you are telling here.

1. No it doesent have comander but it was stated long time ago.
2. Humans no Vehicles its server side option what you can disable.
3. Dunno about this might have limit in retail all we know but what i do know that sprinting 24/7 just gets you killed.
4. oke you got me here.
5-6 oke since i got some really high experience on bf2 flying and decent now on bf3 let me tell ya how it works.

You can switch between heatseeking missiles OR anti ground missile system and trust me the AG system is more than enough to blow stuff on the ground. In short we just dont need bombs anymore 1 of the jets can go full bomber and other do AA. This also makes the ground players life little bit easier than it was in Bf2. Also in Bf3 you cant go FULL AFTERBURN and expect it to make 360 turn in 2 seconds NO in Bf3 you turn faster when the speed is near 700-800 afterburn takes your speed near 1.2k. If you feel that jets are generally slow(that they should run map over 5 times inside of 5 seconds) then no more about that.

7.Oke agree here but i dont think heli should be allowed to do 360 rolls not realistic at all to be honest.
8. Its fine when retail has comm rose.

Also it was stated by the dice that the beta we are using truly is at least 3-5 months old version of battlefield 3. So honestly we cant judge anything just from this beta its just way too behind the retail what hits the shops in few weeks.


Also why we care is because guys like you make it sound like Bf3 is the worst game ever to be released in the bf franchise when honestly none of us execpt the ppl on dice studio know truly what Bf3 has. If you dont like it dont im cool with that.




I got AV and had same problem but i just turned it off every time i started beta so it works.

what can I say I'm glad you like it. I wish I did cause I do want a new game, who doesn't. but don't tell me I'm wrong about the things I like or don't like. I am the one that chooses that in the end and I don't like it. You're just giving me alternative solutions like the one with not having commander. There is or there isn't man. There are many more things I am not getting into. It's funny cause if this game was so good the battlelog forum would be filled with positive feedback and it's not. flooded with hate and also youtube. I am telling you I am not the only one. But, have fun in it man, just not for me.

http://youtu.be/fHpHvJFJUYY

http://youtu.be/8vc4PdwGSAs

http://youtu.be/f5MdwsJgDKo

just remember this. this game is going to go down as the most hated in Dice history. Before it use to be BC2 and that game was great. this BF3 is going to taint the reputation of Dice for a long time. guarantee. Anyway, I'm done talking about this cause I can't be more clear about it. I will buy it eventually when it goes for $19.00 which is going to be very soon specially by the way it's going.

This is the thing i dont like about you. You are assuming this because of beta and ofc there is whine on beta forums about things what they want get fixed. Why have beta if you are looking for positive feedback only ? honestly you cant know what it will end like you got your reasons to hate it ,not get it, etc i respect that but dont make your decision off a half year old beta game.

The way i see it and hope it turns out now that they promised to have stuff like comm rose and some sort of sguad managing system is that it will be lot lot better than BC2 atleast.
Note i didn't say best BF game for reason that im playing BETA on 1 map what happens to be even RUSH MAP on top of that.
Also i can see that i can be wrong about everything and retail turning to be a huge pile of shit but what i have seen so far i want to have positive feeling about it.

Now im done aswell arguing about this if you are but when retail or even demo hits we truly know how the game looks.

I think the main problem DICE are having is with people **** on battlelog forums about this and that.
It's way beyond a joke, granted alot of people are not happy about this and that, so give constructive feedback, on how to improve it, not just say it's sh1t and bring back something thats 6+ years old.

I really dont see the reason, why people even play a beta, because truth be told, if you think a game that is 6 years newer, is just gonna be exactly the same as bf2, but with a coat of paint, then it's just plain stupid.
Change is important, and usually for the better. If Call Of Duty was still the same as it was when in first came out in like 2002, it wouldn't be as huge as it is now.
It changed for the better in alot of peoples eye, it appealed to alot more people, which has shown in it's sales, Bf3 is trying to do that, appealing to alot more people, although you may lose some fans along the way.

actually since the MW2 cod has been exactly the same and its one of the main reasons why so many ppl are leaving it. It also looks like that the MW3 will follow the rest being exactly the same game in every possible way expect in maps.

Mention something new that isent perks or maps what is in MW3 and aint in the BO MW2 or Cod4 atleast im having hard time to find it.

I'm locking this topic because it started out fine, but now it seems like we are fighting, which is something i don't want. I meant for this to show the dates of the beta, now we are arguing about why this game is good, and why it isn't and etc.

everyone has their own opinion on this game, and every game for that matter. And everyone is allowed to express their opinion. But arguing with people that (generally) like a specific gaming series, isn't helpful, constructive, or fun in anyway.

Sorry for anyone who was disappointed with the beta, or anyone who may have gotten their feeling's hurt in this forum thread.(that is if there is anyone).

Hope you all have happy killing's in the future.

-Mr.Talala